Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

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Would you support a bid for the 2018 Commonwealth Games?

Yes, it would be great for the city
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No, waste of money
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Not 2018, but 2022 or 2026
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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#151 Post by Hooligan » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:32 pm

Every 12 years is a bit much for Australia. Let someone else have a go.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#152 Post by SRW » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:36 am

World: Durban may be unable to host 2022 Commonwealth Games, says minister
http://ab.co/2ma82cM
2022 games may be up for grabs, with few others to likely to grab at it. I think Durban will still go ahead, but if not we'd be in for shot even despite the previous games having been in Gold Coast. Most cities just don't have the capacity/ambition to host anymore whereas we do and can use the event to catalyse developments we need sooner.
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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#153 Post by Goodsy » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:51 am

SRW wrote:
World: Durban may be unable to host 2022 Commonwealth Games, says minister
http://ab.co/2ma82cM
2022 games may be up for grabs, with few others to likely to grab at it. I think Durban will still go ahead, but if not we'd be in for shot even despite the previous games having been in Gold Coast. Most cities just don't have the capacity/ambition to host anymore whereas we do and can use the event to catalyse developments we need sooner.
There isn't enough political capital to go for it at the moment

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#154 Post by OlympusAnt » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:36 pm

I think the Comm Games are possible, given the venues we have

Adelaide Oval
Entertainment Centre
36ers Stadium
Velondrome
Marion Swimming Centre
Hockey Centre
Lawn Bowls Club on Rundle Road
Glenelg (for Triathlon)
Convention Centre?

We won't have to build anything massive, maybe another indoor multi purpose venue and better tennis venue (if the sport is chosen).

Can Adelaide Oval fit a 400m track inside of it?
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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#155 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:06 pm

We should absolutely be putting our hand up for the Games. I think the sport body would just be happy to see anyone host it, if Durban pulls out and not give any consideration to Gold Coast hosting in 2018.
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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#156 Post by fishinajar » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:32 pm

Main expense would be athlete accommodation, and that could pay for itself by selling the apartment s off afterwards if done well. Potential gov. owned sites could include old WCH, Magill UniSA site. Other sites: Coca Cola, Coroma, or as CityCollective? suggested SW corner of CBD.
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Main expenses above what we want to do anyway: eg a new riverbank arena and tram city loop etc.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#157 Post by Llessur2002 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:21 am

Adelaide City Council gives ‘in-principle support’ to host 2030 Commonwealth Games here

A FUTURE bid for Adelaide to host the Commonwealth Games will be supported by the City Council.

The Advertiser last week revealed a renewed push for the city to bring the games to Adelaide because of the infrastructure and economic boost it would give the state.

Prominent businessman, sports sponsor and Liberal Party donor Rob Gerard, AO, on Tuesday night fronted a council meeting to back the council’s leadership on hosting the games.

Mr Gerard also advocated for a games village to be built on the Women’s and Children’s Hospital site, and said securing the 2030 games was more achievable than 2026.

“This state has had too many knocks, we have been losing too much and the worst part was losing General Motors Holden ... we died as a state and we need something to lift us,” he said.

“The village will be terrific ... it should be built on the site of the Children’s Hospital when they move it.

“We could build six towers, sell all the units.”

Mr Gerard said once the council was on board, both the opposition and government “must sign a document to the Australian Commonwealth Games Association to say we want the games”.

City councillor Houssam Abiad on Tuesday made an amendment to Cr Phil Martin’s motion, which received unanimous “in-principle support” to a bid by Commonwealth Games Australia for Adelaide to host the games.

He also requested that Lord Mayor Martin Haese writes to the relevant State Government representatives to encourage their support and asked for administration to present the attributes and opportunities of such a bid to elected members.

Mr Martin said it was “no secret that the Commonwealth Games authority’s have been to Adelaide and checked out our facilities and my understanding is that they were impressed with what the city has to offer,” he said.

“We already have a lot of the infrastructure to handle the games.

“For example, gymnastics, track and field, and rugby could be handled within current infrastructure.

“We have the convention centre, the Adelaide oval and there’s a new tennis centre on the way as well.”
From: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/com ... 6763f7e89e

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#158 Post by rubberman » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:55 pm

I think that if the required infrastructure was either in, or being planned anyway, it would be a great idea. If, otoh, we had to build expensive infrastructure that we'd only use once, not so good.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#159 Post by Nort » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:37 pm

rubberman wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:55 pm
I think that if the required infrastructure was either in, or being planned anyway, it would be a great idea. If, otoh, we had to build expensive infrastructure that we'd only use once, not so good.
There is a long history of Olympic and Commonwealth Games infrastructure being underused after the events.

I personally am a big fan of the idea of an athletes village being built that is subsequently added to the housing trust pool.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#160 Post by Hooligan » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:30 pm

Nort wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:37 pm
rubberman wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:55 pm
I think that if the required infrastructure was either in, or being planned anyway, it would be a great idea. If, otoh, we had to build expensive infrastructure that we'd only use once, not so good.
There is a long history of Olympic and Commonwealth Games infrastructure being underused after the events.

I personally am a big fan of the idea of an athletes village being built that is subsequently added to the housing trust pool.
There are football stadiums in Brazil being used to park unused buses because they have no other use for them. I don't want to get to political, but it is pretty sad to see a country that has a large impoverished population waste their money on now unused stadia.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#161 Post by Goodsy » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:35 pm

Hooligan wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:30 pm
Nort wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:37 pm
rubberman wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:55 pm
I think that if the required infrastructure was either in, or being planned anyway, it would be a great idea. If, otoh, we had to build expensive infrastructure that we'd only use once, not so good.
There is a long history of Olympic and Commonwealth Games infrastructure being underused after the events.

I personally am a big fan of the idea of an athletes village being built that is subsequently added to the housing trust pool.
There are football stadiums in Brazil being used to park unused buses because they have no other use for them. I don't want to get to political, but it is pretty sad to see a country that has a large impoverished population waste their money on now unused stadia.
Well it's a pretty easy money laundering scam.. But those sort of things don't really happen when the games are hosted in developed countries

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#162 Post by rev » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:00 pm

These are the approved sports for the Commonwealth Games, the ones in red are mandatory.

Archery (Recurve) - Optional - 1982, 2010
Athletics - Core - 1930–present
Para Athletics - Core - 2002–present
Badminton - Core - 1966–present
Basketball 3x3 - Optional - 2006, 2018, 2022
Boxing - Core - 1930–present
Cricket - Optional - 1998
Cycling (Mountain Bike) - Optional - 2002-2006, 2014-present
Cycling (Para Track) - Optional - 2014–present
Cycling (Road) - Core - 1938–present
Cycling (Track) - Optional - 1934–present
Diving - Optional - 1930–present
Field hockey - Core - 1998–present
Gymnastics (Artistic) - Core - 1978, 1990–present
Gymnastics (Rhythmic) - Optional - 1978, 1990–present
Judo - Core (from 2022) - 1990, 2002, 2014, 2022
Lawn bowls - Core - 1930–1962, 1970–present
Para Lawn bowls - Core - 2002–present
Netball (Women) - Core - 1998–present
Powerlifting - Core - 2002–present
Rugby sevens - Core - 1998–present
Shooting - Optional - 1966, 1974–2018
Squash - Core - 1998–present
Swimming - Core - 1930–present
Para Swimming - Core - 2002–present
Table tennis - Core - 2002–present
Para Table tennis - Optional - 2002–2010, 2018-present
Triathlon - Core - 2002, 2006, 2014-2018
Para Triathlon - Optional - 2018
Volleyball (beach) - Optional - 2018
Weightlifting - Core - 1950–present
Wheelchair Basketball - Optional - Never
Wrestling (Freestyle) - Core - 1930–1986, 1994, 2002, 2010–present

Here's the venues for the Gold Coast games..
11 existing venues, some upgraded.
3 new venues.
5 Temporary venues.

Carrara Stadium - Athletics, Opening Ceremony, Closing Ceremony - 40,000 - Upgrade
Robina Stadium Rugby 7s - 27,500 - Existing
Gold Coast Aquatic Centre Swimming, Diving - 10,000/2,500 - Upgrade
Gold Coast Sports and Leisure Centre Gymnastics, Netball (finals) - 7,500 - New
Gold Coast Convention and Exhibition Centre Basketball (finals), Netball (preliminaries) - 5,000 - Existing
Gold Coast Hockey Centre Hockey - 5,000 - Upgrade
Carrara Sports and Leisure Centre Badminton, Powerlifting, Weightlifting, Wrestling - 5,000 - New
Oxenford Studios Boxing, Table Tennis - 2,500/2,750 - Temporary
Runaway Bay Sports Centre Squash - 3,000 - Temporary
Broadbeach Bowls Club Lawn bowling - 2,500 - Upgrade
Carrara Indoor Stadium Weightlifting - 2,500 - Upgrade
Southport Broadwater Parklands Marathon, Racewalking, Triathlon - 2,500 - Temporary
Elanora/Currumbin Valley Road cycling - N/A - Temporary
Nerang National Park Mountain Biking - 2,000 - Upgrade
Queen Elizabeth Park Beach Volleyball - 4,000 - Temporary
Venues outside the Gold Coast
Cairns Convention Centre Basketball (preliminaries) - 5,000 - Existing
Townsville Entertainment and Convention Centre Basketball (preliminaries) - 5,000 - Existing
Anna Meares Velodrome Track cycling - 4,000 - New
Belmont, Queensland Shooting - 3,000 - Upgrade

Adelaide Oval would be the main stadium, duh.
There could be an upgrade(if needed) to the Marion Swimming Center.
War Memorial Drive would undergo it's proposed redevelopment, hopefully with one main multipurpose roofed stadium and a smaller roofed venue. Basketball, Netball, etc.
Hindmarsh Stadium you could probably use as is, minor upgrades perhaps, perhaps adding the additional temporary seats like they used for the 2000 Olympics.
The Velodrome at Gepps Cross would undergo a needed upgrade, probably upgrade or add temporary facilities to the hockey center nearby there.
Some upgrades or a total redevelopment of the Netball center and Santos athletics stadium.
Temporary beach volleyball facilities at Glenelg, and also for triathlon.
You could use the Convention Center for some of the smaller indoor events, like Judo and table tennis.
Lawn Balls...pick a spot...the city is surrounded by parklands, upgrade a spot and add some temporary facilities.

Athletes village for around 6,000 people? The old RAH.

It's not going to bankrupt the state to host the Commonwealth Games.
Most of the infrastructure is already built, some needs upgrades, many venues will be temporary, athletes village could then be used as low income housing/trust housing, or used as student apartments for the nearby uni's, or all of the above, or even some of the buildings leased or sold to hotel operators.
The transport infrastructure that would be needed, like trams, is already being planned or intended to be built(well, we will see after the election results come in tonight lol).

Perth, Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne have hosted, Gold Coast(a non capital city) is hosting..here we are, still yet to host any major event of this kind.
Some people may think it's irrelevant, the Commonwealth Games, waste of money, etc.
Hosting such major events, improves the image of a city, the perception of the city.
The improvement to sporting venues, benefits our sporting clubs. If our sports clubs therefore perform better on the national stage, it gives the states populace more confidence, and pride. It also helps change the perception/image of the city/state. Better, state of the art venues, also help attract bigger names in sport. They also help attract bigger sponsorship dollars.
There's many benefits, you just need to be able to think beyond the typical one dimensional thinking of many of the locals.

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#163 Post by SRW » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:48 pm

State Government requests feasibility report into Adelaide hosting 2026 Commonwealth Games
8 March 2019, AdelaideNow

The State Government has declared it wants to bring the Commonwealth Games to Adelaide if it makes economic sense and has commissioned a report into the cost and merit of hosting the 12-day international sporting event.

In the most significant step towards SA potentially bidding for the 2026 Games, cabinet this week agreed to move from a discussion to feasibility phase after meeting with the UK-based Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF) late last year.

An independent firm will work with the Office of Recreation and Sport to complete a statewide sporting infrastructure report by October.

Within that will be a recommendation to government of whether Adelaide is in a position to bid for the Games and at what cost.

Adelaide remains the Australian Commonwealth Games Association’s (ACGA) preferred city for 2026 and bids must be finalised by the end of the year.

Sports Minister Corey Wingard told The Advertiser he wanted the Games in Adelaide if it meant more jobs, economic growth and left a sporting and infrastructure legacy.

“We know the Commonwealth Games community is really keen on Adelaide as a host city but we need to see if that fits and is the right thing for South Australia,” Mr Wingard said.

“I’m a sports fan, I want any sporting event in South Australia, I’m a sports nut and I think any sports nut would want it.

“But from a state perspective we want to make sure it stacks up and there are benefits for South Australia.

“We know we need to have a strong economy, we have a big focus on creating jobs and having an economic benefit out of any investment we make.

“So as a sports fan, yes I want it, but we want to make sure there is economic benefit and job-creation opportunities.”

Mr Wingard said if not for 2026 then SA would consider 2030 or 2034. The next Games in 2022 will be in Birmingham in the UK and 2030 is expected to go to Canada to mark the 100th anniversary of the birthplace of the Empire Games.

“Coming into government we looked at this straight away and I went to the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games (last April) then I asked ‘well what work has been done?’” Mr Wingard said.

“And sadly no work had been done. When you look at the opportunities on the horizon 2026 is the immediate one and it’s a tight turnaround to get all the work done for that.

“But we made a commitment we would have a look at it and leave no stone unturned exploring if that’s right for South Australia.

“We’ll have an eye on 2030 and 2034 as well as we do this work and just work out whether it’s 2026 or beyond that might be better, or is it not the right time and would we be better off investing in other projects and events.”

ACGA president Ben Houston said he welcomed the government’s decision to investigate hosting the Games.

“Commonwealth Games Australia wants to see the Games return to Australia, it’s important for our athletes and our member sports and as we’ve seen recently on the Gold Coast, hosting the Games can deliver great legacy benefits to communities,” Mr Houston said.

“Adelaide is a very strong case and the CGF’s requirements are for a feasibility study to be completed. In announcing the decision to commission that, South Australia has a head start.”

Adelaide is the only major capital city in Australia not to have hosted the Games after Melbourne (2006), Brisbane (1982), Perth (1962) and Sydney (1938).

An economic report by the Queensland Government into last year’s Gold Coast Games is set to be released on April 5 to mark one year since the event.

It is expected to detail a $2.5 billion boost to the state’s economy, of which $1.8 billion was injected directly into the Gold Coast.

It’s been estimated the Gold Coast Games cost $2bn ($1bn on capital and $1bn on operations) which Mr Wingard described as “excessive”.

That included significant spend on infrastructure such as extending the light rail and building a new velodrome and multiple venues on the Coast, and the CGF has since changed the delivery model of the Games to keep costs for host cities down.

The CGF visited Adelaide twice late last year and declared it largely ‘Games ready’.

“Around the world they are trying to bring down the cost of the Games because they have been getting out of control,” Mr Wingard said.

“You’ve got to look at legacy infrastructure, the Gold Coast had their tramline and knowledge precinct around the (Griffith) university and whatever else so it’s ‘what else would we be left with in South Australia?’.”

Mr Wingard would not confirm whether Adelaide needed a new inner-city stadium to host the Games, which would then host sports such as basketball, netball, tennis and concerts thereafter.

“That’s the work that needs to be done (in the infrastructure report),” he said.

“I have a vision to make South Australia a premier sporting state in the nation and in the world, we need to shoot high, so what is it that we need to get us there?

“From a grassroots level to a pathway level to the elite level, but we need a plan.

“Let’s get the right infrastructure in the right place, get more people playing, grow the grassroots, grow the pathway and the elite level.

“And then also the bigger stadium pitches for what’s going to get the best return for South Australia and see what’s on the table.

“We want to attract big events like we’ve already done with the WTA and ATP (tennis).

“We’ve done it with the Tour Down Under and we want to look at events like that which we can get to South Australia and grow.”
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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#164 Post by HiTouch » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:00 pm

Bloody waste of money. Especially since the whole event is an out of date celebration of colonialism.
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If the parklands are so important why dont they put it to a vote state wide? Or are they afraid the majority will back this hotel..

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Re: Commonwealth Games in Adelaide

#165 Post by RiseHigh » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:59 pm

So what, it would be great for the economy and for jobs because of the construction boom for years leading up to it.

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