Beer Garden

[rev]

Did anybody go to that pub with free beer?

God no. Apparently they were lined up outside.

You drink beer? I'd have thought something like this was more you...

[HiTouch]

Well rev, by the way you post, it's a lot better than what I assume you're into



(please don't ban me)

[Nort]

Did anybody go to that pub with free beer?

God no. Apparently they were lined up outside.

You drink beer? I'd have thought something like this was more you...

Hmm...

BEET-CARROT SHRUB
MAKES: 1 cocktail (plus more vinegar)

FOR THE VINEGAR
1/2 cup beet juice
1 cups carrot juice
1 cups water
1/2 cup sugar
1/4 cup white vinegar

FOR THE COCKTAIL
2 ounces gin
1/2 ounce lemon juice
Ginger ale or lemon-lime soda
Carrot ribbons, for garnish (optional)

That sounds like it would be delicious on a warm evening, thanks for the recommend.

[rev]

I wonder where the next 'cluster' of tall buildings will be in the city..the skyline will probably continue spreading to the west but Id like too see Hurtle Square go up.

[d3v310per]

Collapse of Phil McMahon’s real estate sales business prompts liquidator to register caveat over family home
A prominent Adelaide realtor moved more than $300,000 of assets into a newly-formed company under his wife’s name just months before his company’s sales arm failed — now liquidators are targeting his million-dollar home.

From Adelaide Now...

The liquidator of a prominent Adelaide real estate sales agency is targeting the million dollar home of its founder amid a dispute over access to millions of dollars in assets.

The sales arm of Phil McMahon Real Estate was wound up on April 8, just a month after the company wrote off close to $880,000 in director loans.

Investigations by liquidator Anthony Phillips, of Heard Phillips Lieberenz, reveal the loans were issued to pay expenses, including home loan costs, insurance, council rates and utilities, for a Glenelg house registered in the name of Mr McMahon’s wife Lynette.

In his latest report to creditors, Mr Phillips confirmed his solicitors had registered a caveat over the property, which Ms McMahon paid $1.175 million for in 2016.

“The explanation provided … was that these loans were statute barred and unrecoverable,” Mr Phillips’ report says.

“Whilst I do not accept the grounds of write off that have been provided, I am mindful that the director has no assets in his name and as a result may not have the financial capacity to repay the outstanding loans.”

The ATO has been left chasing more than in $922,000 in unpaid tax debts following the collapse of the Phil McMahon sales business.

Less than four months prior to its failure, the company’s assets were transferred to a newly formed entity known as McMahon Real Estate SA (MRESA).

Mr Phillips’s investigations reveal that entity is controlled by Ms McMahon as sole director and shareholder.

The transfer — which included motor vehicles, business records and other assets — was priced at $377,082.58, with MRESA assuming hire purchase liabilities, trade creditors and other liabilities valued at $566,681.01.

Following the transfer MRESA continued to operate real estate sales and property management services under the Phil McMahon brand, however all remaining rent rolls have since been sold, with proceeds used to repay secured creditor Macquarie.

Mr Phillips and Mr McMahon are in a dispute over access to around $1.5 million in surplus funds raised through the rent roll sales.

The Phil McMahon sales operation has also ceased, with Mr McMahon and Ms McMahon both joining property group Taplin as senior sales consultants, according to that company’s website.

Mr Phillips’s investigations into the appropriateness of the business transfer, which are ongoing, have been referred to the ATO’s Phoenix Taskforce.

Illegal phoenix activity takes place when a new company is created to continue the business of another entity that has been deliberately liquidated to avoid paying outstanding debts.

More than 20 employees have been left chasing more than $300,000 in unpaid entitlements, which are covered by the Federal Government’s Fair Entitlements Guarantee Scheme.

In addition to the ATO, other unsecured creditors include Revenue SA, owed more than $22,000, and the company’s landlord who is owed more than $15,000.

Mr McMahon and Mr Phillips both declined to comment.

[rev]

So Adelaide wont be part of the 2023 FIFA Womens World Cup bid.
Hindmarsh cant be used because it doesn't meet requirements, such as four change rooms instead of the two it has currently, insufficient capacity, and many other issues with the stadium. Would basically require a complete rebuild by the sounds of it, and if you're going to build a new stadium, it wouldn't fit there because you'd think they would build it with around the 30,000~ capacity mark.

Adelaide Oval can't be used because of the AFL season.

Like I keep saying, we need a new multi-use rectangular stadium in the city, ideally on King William road east of Adelaide Oval.


Even more embarrassing, the 36ers are using an asbestos filled suburban hall for a training facility because they've been forced out of the stadium at Findon.
The NBL, according to American imports in the NBL, is said to be 30 years behind the NBA. This facility they are using...50 years behind.

It's a near shambolic situation we have here in this state. Half a billion thrown at the AFL and Cricket, with Cricket matches of significance being so few over the summer, while other sports languish in out dated and insufficient facilities.

I did hear the Liberal government is looking at the stadium situation in Adelaide.

[Bob]

Yes, and prepare yourself for more pain.

The summer after next (2020/21) Cricket Australia have a four test series penciled in against India. Syd/Mel & Per will get one, and Bri & Ade must vie for the other. I tried to raise this issue about AO slipping down the order in the Adelaide Oval Hotel forum but most people on this forum didn’t want to know. So, thousands of Indian supporters coming to Oz that summer may not even get to see a Test Match at AO that series, this is a 50/50 hit or miss if AO is involved or not.

Some people on this forum can’t think past being able to stand on the hill for AFL matches…too bad AO has not one single major alternative event this winter, meanwhile Perth just had two EPL games both attended by a total of approx. 110.000 seated fans, and the WA govt study found 21,000 visitors to Perth attending the Man U week held in Perth. Plenty of economic activity from international tourists.

I also stated at the time the entire stadium vision for Adelaide needs attention. We are so far behind in the process to agree on what is required, let alone the time required to build it all out.

[Nort]

Some people on this forum can’t think past being able to stand on the hill for AFL matches…too bad AO has not one single major alternative event this winter, meanwhile Perth just had two EPL games both attended by a total of approx. 110.000 seated fans, and the WA govt study found 21,000 visitors to Perth attending the Man U week held in Perth. Plenty of economic activity from international tourists.

I also stated at the time the entire stadium vision for Adelaide needs attention. We are so far behind in the process to agree on what is required, let alone the time required to build it all out.

As requested last time you brought this up, please provide an example of an event that would have come to Adelaide Oval but didn't due to a lack of stadium seating.

[Bob]

For the third time, I gave you the example where AO DID NOT get EPL fixtures in 2019 and Perth Stadium DID and WHY there was a concern with restricted seating capacity when the EPL was tried at AO once previously. Perth got the repeat business Adelaide DID NOT.

Litmus test - what international events being held at AO this winter outside of AFL? Answer - none.

Why don't you go back and read the posts, the answer is there. It's like dealing with children on here sometimes. No wonder I don't visit the site much anymore because some people just can't seem to read and absorb information here.

What are you going to do for the CW games at AO? - put a temp stand up and give the impression of a 3rd world country? But that would go against the grain of the 'nice vacant end for aesthetic purposes/ wouldn't it? - if a temp stand was on the hill.

AO is slipping down the pecking order...

Need to do something about keeping it relevant, the AO hotel will make a point of difference but being fully seated with a capacity above Perth would make a significant difference from a business point of view to lure larger events.

[rev]

FIFA women’s World Cup Australian steering committee member says Adelaide Oval agreements have blocked the bid

Adelaide will continue to be snubbed for major soccer tournaments unless a new minimum 23,000-person capacity stadium is built, says Greg Griffin.

Griffin is the nominee of Australian Professional Football Clubs Association for the 2023 FIFA women’s World Cup steering committee.

After The Advertiser revealed Adelaide was not in a position to be included in a bid for 2023 FIFA women’s World Cup matches in Australia, Griffin said it was no surprise.

Adelaide in 2015 also blew its chance to host any of the hugely successful AFC Asian Cup which the Socceroos won.

“The only plausible reason for Adelaide to be not included in the states that form part of the FIFA women’s World Cup bid document would be its refusal to guarantee to the organiser (Football Federation Australia) a stadium of not less than 23,000 capacity for the duration of the World Cup,’’ Griffin said.

“We know that the money spent by the government on Adelaide Oval has effectively gone to AFL football and cricket due to the contracts in place.

“So the State Government is obliged, if it wants any part of the women’s World Cup, to commit to a new rectangular stadium which will attract significant Federal Government support.

“There is no other reason why Adelaide would be excluded from the bid document.”

Trade, Tourism and Investment Minister David Ridgway told The Advertiser the decision followed “a comprehensive event analysis” and stadium “challenges”.

“FIFA requires venues to execute its Stadium Agreements unaltered to be eligible for selection,’’ he said.

“Coopers (Hindmarsh) Stadium (16,500 capacity) no longer meets the minimum seating requirement of 22,065, revised this year and communicated to us in early May.”

The last time Adelaide hosted a major women’s football tournament was in 2006.

SA hosted the entire eight nations of the AFC women’s Asian Cup and Australia.

It was also the last time the Matildas featured in Adelaide.

This year’s FIFA women’s World Cup in France broke global TV records.

This came after more than 1.39 million Australians watched SBS TV’s broadcast of the Matildas playing Italy in France on the opening weekend.

Australian domestic TV viewing figures for the entire tournament eclipsed those recorded for the 2015 FIFA women’s World Cup in Canada.

Research conducted by True North revealed the Matildas were Australia’s “most loved sporting team”.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/fo ... 9046b1c8c0

A major global sporting event that would have showcased Adelaide to every corner of the planet with an audience of billions, and we are missing out.

[andynguyen]

What a shame that Adelaide will most likely miss out on a chance to be part of the FIFA Women's World Cup bid by Australia! When cities such as Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney, Perth, Canberra and even regional cities which may include Townsville, Gold Coast, Newcastle and Geelong are part of the bid. This year's FIFA Women's World Cup used 9 venues, so it may be a missed opportunity for Adelaide. This is particularly the case when Adelaide's lack of progress already cost us the chance to host many concert tours and even some international sporting events.

There's still time for Adelaide to take part in the FIFA Women's World Cup bid, if we invest in a new rectangular stadium capable of hosting 30,000 people (which can be expanded to 50,000 if need be) which has already been considered. But this is not the only sporting facility that we desperately need. At a minimum, we also need a 15,000 seat indoor arena, a new aquatic centre to replace the outdated Adelaide Aquatic Centre, a new BMX track and more indoor basketball courts. They go hand in hand.

I would like to see Adelaide bid for the Olympics in 2036 to coincide with SA's bicentenary and a successful bid could provide excellent incentives for investment in the new facilities that are mentioned which increases the capacity for Adelaide to host sporting and entertainment events. An Olympics could also lead to transport infrastructure improvements and even more facilities such as a new whitewater rafting centre (which we don't have in SA) and maybe a replacement for the Adelaide Superdrome, both of which will then be used by the general public and have a great legacy need. Taking part in Australian bids for international sporting events is just one step to a possible Adelaide Olympic Games bid. More info including the master plan can be found by hitting up this link: www.facebook.com/adelaidegames

The other way for Adelaide to take part in the FIFA Women's World Cup bid is if FIFA gets their act together and be flexible in terms of venue requirements, particularly in terms of seating capacity. We do need to provide change rooms, maybe we can add more seating at Hindmarsh Stadium if there's a demand for it. Maybe FIFA can learn from the recent reforms of the International Olympic Committee (IOC), which recently undergo changes to Olympic requirements, including maximising use of existing venues, new venues only based on legacy need, no defined minimum seating capacities, and seating capacities determined according to context, such as popularity of the sport, legacy need and access to public transport/main roads, to ensure Olympics don't become 'white elephants' where venues are not used or maintained after the Olympics.

There are several countries expressing interest in hosting the FIFA Women's World Cup in 2023, so if Australia is unsuccessful in the bid then we will most likely try again at some point, leaving Adelaide with more time to find or build a suitable venue. However, Australia is also planning bids for Rugby World Cup in 2027, and FIFA men's World Cup in 2034 (jointly with Indonesia) so Adelaide really needs to get a move on! A new rectangular stadium would really help boost Adelaide's prospects of hosting international football and rugby matches.

[Bob]

For the third time, I gave you the example where AO DID NOT get EPL fixtures in 2019 and Perth Stadium DID and WHY there was a concern with restricted seating capacity when the EPL was tried at AO once previously. Perth got the repeat business Adelaide DID NOT.

Litmus test - what international events being held at AO this winter outside of AFL? Answer - none.

Why don't you go back and read the posts, the answer is there. It's like dealing with children on here sometimes. No wonder I don't visit the site much anymore because some people just can't seem to read and absorb information here.

What are you going to do for the CW games at AO? - put a temp stand up and give the impression of a 3rd world country? But that would go against the grain of the 'nice vacant end for aesthetic purposes/ wouldn't it? - if a temp stand was on the hill.

AO is slipping down the pecking order...

Need to do something about keeping it relevant, the AO hotel will make a point of difference but being fully seated with a capacity above Perth would make a significant difference from a business point of view to lure larger events.

Perth (Optus) Stadium winter season 2019 achievements on top of one AFL match each weekend

A-League Football GF
English Premier League (two matches)
NRL State of Origin match NSW v QLD
Rugby Australia v NZ (this weekend)
All of these events had crowd attendances above Adelaide Oval seated capacity – apart from AFL what event has AO held this winter season …??? And how many people attended???

Optus Stadium also voted the most beautiful sporting facility in the world by Prix Versailles Awards in July.
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/wes ... 528ib.html

AO slowly but surely being left behind on the international stage; AO needs to become more relevant internationally and attract more people here to events. Get the last grandstand put in and give everyone a seat.

[SouthAussie94]

For the third time, I gave you the example where AO DID NOT get EPL fixtures in 2019 and Perth Stadium DID and WHY there was a concern with restricted seating capacity when the EPL was tried at AO once previously. Perth got the repeat business Adelaide DID NOT.

Litmus test - what international events being held at AO this winter outside of AFL? Answer - none.

Why don't you go back and read the posts, the answer is there. It's like dealing with children on here sometimes. No wonder I don't visit the site much anymore because some people just can't seem to read and absorb information here.

What are you going to do for the CW games at AO? - put a temp stand up and give the impression of a 3rd world country? But that would go against the grain of the 'nice vacant end for aesthetic purposes/ wouldn't it? - if a temp stand was on the hill.

AO is slipping down the pecking order...

Need to do something about keeping it relevant, the AO hotel will make a point of difference but being fully seated with a capacity above Perth would make a significant difference from a business point of view to lure larger events.

Perth (Optus) Stadium winter season 2019 achievements on top of one AFL match each weekend

A-League Football GF
English Premier League (two matches)
NRL State of Origin match NSW v QLD
Rugby Australia v NZ (this weekend)
All of these events had crowd attendances above Adelaide Oval seated capacity – apart from AFL what event has AO held this winter season …??? And how many people attended???

Optus Stadium also voted the most beautiful sporting facility in the world by Prix Versailles Awards in July.
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/wes ... 528ib.html

AO slowly but surely being left behind on the international stage; AO needs to become more relevant internationally and attract more people here to events. Get the last grandstand put in and give everyone a seat.

The population of Perth is roughly 600,000 more than Adelaide. Optus Stadium has a capacity of 60,000. Adelaide Oval has a capacity of 53,500.

Given the population difference between the two cities, theres roughly the same number of seats in the stadium on a per/capita basis.

And Perth hosting the State of Origin was a one off. Adelaide is hosting it next year.

These points alone greatly reduce your argument. Adelaide Oval is still one of the best stadiums in the country. Head to the SCG, Marvel, or Giants Stadium at Homebush. From a spectator experience perspective, Adelaide Oval is much better.

[Phantom]

Can someone explain what’s with all the threads with posts edited to be in Vietnamese on here?

[Bob]

For the third time, I gave you the example where AO DID NOT get EPL fixtures in 2019 and Perth Stadium DID and WHY there was a concern with restricted seating capacity when the EPL was tried at AO once previously. Perth got the repeat business Adelaide DID NOT.

Litmus test - what international events being held at AO this winter outside of AFL? Answer - none.

Why don't you go back and read the posts, the answer is there. It's like dealing with children on here sometimes. No wonder I don't visit the site much anymore because some people just can't seem to read and absorb information here.

What are you going to do for the CW games at AO? - put a temp stand up and give the impression of a 3rd world country? But that would go against the grain of the 'nice vacant end for aesthetic purposes/ wouldn't it? - if a temp stand was on the hill.

AO is slipping down the pecking order...

Need to do something about keeping it relevant, the AO hotel will make a point of difference but being fully seated with a capacity above Perth would make a significant difference from a business point of view to lure larger events.

Perth (Optus) Stadium winter season 2019 achievements on top of one AFL match each weekend

A-League Football GF
English Premier League (two matches)
NRL State of Origin match NSW v QLD
Rugby Australia v NZ (this weekend)
All of these events had crowd attendances above Adelaide Oval seated capacity – apart from AFL what event has AO held this winter season …??? And how many people attended???

Optus Stadium also voted the most beautiful sporting facility in the world by Prix Versailles Awards in July.
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/wes ... 528ib.html

AO slowly but surely being left behind on the international stage; AO needs to become more relevant internationally and attract more people here to events. Get the last grandstand put in and give everyone a seat.

The population of Perth is roughly 600,000 more than Adelaide. Optus Stadium has a capacity of 60,000. Adelaide Oval has a capacity of 53,500.

Given the population difference between the two cities, theres roughly the same number of seats in the stadium on a per/capita basis.

And Perth hosting the State of Origin was a one off. Adelaide is hosting it next year.

These points alone greatly reduce your argument. Adelaide Oval is still one of the best stadiums in the country. Head to the SCG, Marvel, or Giants Stadium at Homebush. From a spectator experience perspective, Adelaide Oval is much better.

So, based on your logic Adelaide Oval should be twice the capacity it is today? In 1965 over 62K turned up for a football match at AO when the population was 700K, or in 1976 over 66K turned up for a football match at FP West Lakes when the population was 930,000. I should rephrase that - only 66K got in, there up to another 10K outside who had the gates shut on them and couldn’t get in. Since AO redevelopment one football match squeezed in over 54K when the population was 1,350,000. And afterwards there were complaints about the viewing restrictions, if you search through the newspapers articles you will find reference to this. No relationship between population and football match attendances in those examples.

Or we could look at it in reverse, was MCG capacity overbuilt, when they fitted in 120,000 for the 1970 VFL GF when their population was 2,500,000 or was it under built because today in a redeveloped configuration the MCG capacity is only 100,000 for a city with a population approaching 5M? Except today everyone in the MCG gets a seat.

So, is Adelaide Oval underbuilt or overbuilt? Well football matches are one thing but to become relevant in the new world international events must be attracted and on a regular basis. Inflows of international $$$ are mandatory to ensure taxpayer $$$ for AO redevelopment are made worthwhile. International corporations and spectators expect comfort, that you must provide for, or miss out.

Meanwhile as we continue to trash this out on here, Perth last night hosted Aus v NZ Rugby where every seat in Optus Stadium was sold out. Thousands of NZ fans travelled to Perth – Optus Stadium is doing far more for WA tourism than AO is for SA tourism. Do you want that trend to continue or start getting a bigger slice of the pie?

Too many here is SA still think AO is for the extended suburban football competition and going to the hill is just an expansion of going to stand at Norwood Oval or similar, the SMA would know what they need to do about it in the medium term – getting the CW games and funding to finish AO with a northern stand and give everyone a seat would be a big step in the right direction and put the final jigsaw piece in place for AO once and for all.