Park Tce Salisbury rail crossing

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Park Tce Salisbury rail crossing

#1 Post by Eurostar » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:05 pm

alexczarn wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:45 pm
Still thinking they missed a trick by not running a flyover for Morphett Rd northbound or Oaklands Rd southbound.
I want to see the money saved by not doing that and use that towards sinking Salisbury Railway Station therefore eliminating the Park Terrace level crossing

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Re: PRO: Oaklands Rail Overpass

#2 Post by monotonehell » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:12 pm

Eurostar wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:05 pm
alexczarn wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:45 pm
Still thinking they missed a trick by not running a flyover for Morphett Rd northbound or Oaklands Rd southbound.
I want to see the money saved by not doing that and use that towards sinking Salisbury Railway Station therefore eliminating the Park Terrace level crossing
That could be difficult because Salisbury Hwy is sunk under the railway less than 400 metres away. :( Something needs to be done there though.
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Re: PRO: Oaklands Rail Overpass

#3 Post by Eurostar » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:20 pm

monotonehell wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:12 pm
Eurostar wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:05 pm
alexczarn wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:45 pm
Still thinking they missed a trick by not running a flyover for Morphett Rd northbound or Oaklands Rd southbound.
I want to see the money saved by not doing that and use that towards sinking Salisbury Railway Station therefore eliminating the Park Terrace level crossing
That could be difficult because Salisbury Hwy is sunk under the railway less than 400 metres away. :( Something needs to be done there though.
October 24 2002 , since then the level crossing should of been eliminated by now

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Re: PRO: Oaklands Rail Overpass

#4 Post by SBD » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:16 pm

Eurostar wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:20 pm
monotonehell wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:12 pm
Eurostar wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:05 pm


I want to see the money saved by not doing that and use that towards sinking Salisbury Railway Station therefore eliminating the Park Terrace level crossing
That could be difficult because Salisbury Hwy is sunk under the railway less than 400 metres away. :( Something needs to be done there though.
October 24 2002 , since then the level crossing should of been eliminated by now
Park Terrace also has the standard gauge line across it, so gradients would likely need to be longer than if it was just the metropolitan lines.

Is the railway far enough from the intersection to build a road bridge over the railway and get back down to junction level? (assuming that property access can be found somehow).

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Re: PRO: Oaklands Rail Overpass

#5 Post by mawsonguy » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:56 pm

It's 165m along Park Tce from the railway line to the Salisbury Hwy intersection, 75m along Park Tce from the railway crossing to the Gawler St junction and 400m along the railway line from Park Tce to the Salisbury Hwy overpass. IMHO, the only solution that would work would be to partially sink the railway line, patrially raise Park Tce and close off the Gawler St junction. That, coupled with property acquisions north and south of Park Tce, would not be cheap.

The solution will be a lot easier if the freight by-pass part of the Northern Connector is ever implmented as the absence of freight trains on the Salisbury line will permit a steeper gradient on thee rail line.

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Re: PRO: Oaklands Rail Overpass

#6 Post by ChillyPhilly » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:15 pm

I live a few blocks away from the Salisbury Park Terrace crossing.

The best bet would be to put Park Terrace in a box culvert and put it underneath the rail line. The whole immediate area is a mess that is well overdue for a modern and practical upgrade.

It would be ideal in my opinion to reduce the traffic along Park Terrace first, perhaps by widening and upgrading Commercial Road some distance to the east as basically a bypass of inner Salisbury. Several speed limits in the vicinity need to be reduced and the carpark to the immediate east of Salisbury Interchange should be converted into a public plaza.
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Re: Park Tce Salisbury rail crossing

#7 Post by monotonehell » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:03 pm

The problem is the many number of things all within the close area; the level crossing, the train platform & the bus interchange, the exits onto the road for that, the entrances to the nearby pubs and businesses, the intersection up into the shopping area, and the lowered Salisbury Hywy. All of this needs to be catered for somehow. There's many interfaces and many levels to deal with. Changing one affects a load of others.
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Re: Park Tce Salisbury rail crossing

#8 Post by Goodsy » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:20 pm

elevate the line from Kings Road to Commercial road and build the rail portion of the northern connector so freight doesnt need to go through Salisbury

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Re: PRO: Oaklands Rail Overpass

#9 Post by claybro » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:53 am

mawsonguy wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:56 pm
It's 165m along Park Tce from the railway line to the Salisbury Hwy intersection, 75m along Park Tce from the railway crossing to the Gawler St junction and 400m along the railway line from Park Tce to the Salisbury Hwy overpass. IMHO, the only solution that would work would be to partially sink the railway line, patrially raise Park Tce and close off the Gawler St junction. That, coupled with property acquisions north and south of Park Tce, would not be cheap.

The solution will be a lot easier if the freight by-pass part of the Northern Connector is ever implmented as the absence of freight trains on the Salisbury line will permit a steeper gradient on thee rail line.
Couldn't the cost of sinking the rail line be partially offset by the huge development potential of the new land made available above the sunken line? This would still be costly, but it could significantly change Salisbury for the better, and really give the opportunity for a proper TOD mixed use community.

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