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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3481 Post by Ben » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:07 am

Adelaide City Council to make new move to return planning powers
Simeon Thomas-Wilson, Urban Affairs, The Advertiser
April 10, 2018 10:22pm

ADELAIDE City Council will launch a new bid to claw back some of its planning powers from the State Government, with a push to raise the $10 million CBD cap to $40 million.

It’s been nearly 10 years since the then State Government made widescale changes to the way that large scale development proposals earmarked for the City of Adelaide — appointing the Development Assessment Commission as the planning authority for any development over $10 million in the city.

In November 2013 now former Planning Minister John Rau then removed the council’s referral powers for the developments over $10 million.

The council has tried to overturn this ever since and at a full meeting on Tuesday night, Adelaide chief executive Mark Goldstone told city councillors that in light of the change in State Government last month a new push would be launched to reinstate some of the council’s planning assessment powers.

“With the change in government it is an opportunity to us to restate our position and we will do that,” Mr Goldstone said.

The declaration by Mr Goldstone came after Councillor Anne Moran asked whether the council would resume efforts taken after a adopting a motion she moved in October last year.

The motion called for the council to discuss with the State Government about options including;

THE full restoration of the council’s powers for all development in the City of Adelaide,

INCREASING the current $10 million cap for developments removed from the council’s planning assessment powers to $40 million, and

ESTABLISHING a joint City of Adelaide and State Planning Assessment panel.

Cr Moran was going to move another motion at the meeting before settling on asking it as a question without notice.

“We have a new minister in charge of planning [Stephan Knoll],” she said.

After Cr Moran’s motion last year, Adelaide Lord Mayor Martin Haese wrote to Mr Rau requesting that he consider raising the threshold of what developments could be assessed by the council but received no response.

Cr Haese said he would again support Cr Moran’s push.

“I will continue to do so with the Marshal Liberal Government, it [the move for reinstate planning assessment powers] has great merit,” he said.

The renewed push by the council to lobby the State Government to give it back some of its planning powers is likely to again take place through a letter to the Planning Minister and by being raised at the Capital City Committee.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3482 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:44 am

Wonder if it's worthwhile us putting together as a forum (Sensational Adelaide) a letter also to the Planning Minister objecting to the council's proposal similar to what we did for building heights and the development plan review.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3483 Post by timtam20292 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:03 pm

I think that would be a great idea.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3484 Post by Norman » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:17 pm

I doubt this will go ahead. Stephan Knoll already said that they will continue on with the existing planning reforms put in place by the previous government.

Confirmation might be nice though.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3485 Post by Norman » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:13 pm

Knoll shoots down council bid to reclaim planning powers
11 April 2018
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New Planning Minister Stephan Knoll has pre-emptively rejected an Adelaide City Council bid to reclaim its major planning powers.

The council lost its rights to advise on major developments in the CBD and North Adelaide in 2013, when then-Planning Minister John Rau dropped the maximum value of projects under its remit to $10 million.

Late last year, Lord Mayor Martin Haese wrote to Rau, asking for that threshold to be raised – but he received no response.

Haese told last night’s council meeting he had “enthusiastically, vigorously” pursued the matter with Rau and that he would launch a new bid to regain the council’s planning powers now that South Australia has a new government and a new Minister for Planning.
But Knoll told InDaily before yesterday’s meeting that the government had no intention of giving the council its old powers back.

“The State Government has no plans to amend the current city planning framework at this stage,” he said in a statement.

A spokesperson for his office confirmed this meant that the Government would not be returning planning powers to the city council.

Knoll added, however, that: “We will be working constructively with the Adelaide City Council and other stakeholders to streamline our planning processes and drive more investment into our city.”

Haese told InDaily this afternoon that he believed the Government might still reconsider.

“Following Council endorsement … in October last year, I raised these matters with the previous Minister for Planning, John Rau,” he said.

“I believe there is an opportunity for these matters to be reassessed and I look forward to discussing them soon with the new Minister for Planning.”

Area councillor Anne Moran spearheaded last year’s push and attempted to renew it last night (but her motion was deemed too similar to last year’s motion asking for the Capital City Committee to discuss the issue with the Planning Minister – a motion that remains in force).

She told InDaily this morning that the current planning framework was not good for the city.

Moran urged Knoll to reconsider and said she hoped the council could establish a more fruitful relationship with the Marshall Government on planning than it had with the Weatherill Government.

“The developers don’t like going through the government’s assessment (processes) anymore,” she told InDaily.

“Our (development assessment process) is probably a little too ‘yes/no’ and simplistic; theirs (the Government’s) has been bogged down in peer review.

“We need to work together.”

She added: “This isn’t just a ‘give us back our powers, you bastards’.”

“I’d ask him (Knoll) to look at what we’re proposing again.

“He shouldn’t say no to you (the media) before he’s spoken to us.”

Moran’s motion suggested that the Capital City Committee ask the Planning Minister to consider four options:
- Restoring council powers over all development in the City of Adelaide.
- Raising the $10 million limit to $40 million.
- Changing the “trigger” for development assessment, from dollar value to floor space of 25,000sqm.
- Establishing a joint City of Adelaide and State Planning Assessment panel.

She said she wouldn’t have expected the new Government to agree to a wholesale return of planning powers to the council, but she hoped it would consider the latter three options seriously.

“Three our to the four things that I put up still give the state power over the big stuff,” she said.

She argued that the council was effectively assessing less and less valuable development every year because of inflation – a situation that did not work for either level of government.

“It isn’t fair, the current situation,” she added.

Knoll told a press conference today that the Liberal Party would continue with the former Government’s broader planning reforms, which he said would give developers “certainty”.


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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3486 Post by timtam20292 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:20 pm

Good, hopefully it stays that way for a very long time.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3487 Post by claybro » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:40 pm

just stick with the roads, rates and rubbish guys....oh and for God sake, put some water on the South Parklands.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3488 Post by Ser Noit of Loit » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:49 pm

Good on the new government for sticking (seemingly at least) with how things are. The capital centre of a city, the CBD, isn't the place for a local council to quietly go about their business as with Unley, Prospect, Marion, etc. It's a major centrepiece which should be reflected by its governing body thinking bigger.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3489 Post by YellowRoad » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:55 pm

You've had your time ACC and you held the state back. Should have taken a leaf out of the City of Melbournes book.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3490 Post by mshagg » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:42 am

Wow, Haese is on fire in the past 24 hours.

Big thumbs up to Bryan who pipes up and complains that single occupant vehicles arent adequately catered for in the CBD:

https://www.facebook.com/27863282900438 ... =3&theater

Then a Grade-A whinge about a few lights on the Torrens footbridge:

https://www.facebook.com/27863282900438 ... 634810600/

Because Council has articulated such a clear vision for the space...

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News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3491 Post by Kasey771 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:42 am

mshagg wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:42 am
Wow, Haese is on fire in the past 24 hours.

Big thumbs up to Bryan who pipes up and complains that single occupant vehicles arent adequately catered for in the CBD:

https://www.facebook.com/27863282900438 ... =3&theater

Then a Grade-A whinge about a few lights on the Torrens footbridge:

https://www.facebook.com/27863282900438 ... 634810600/

Because Council has articulated such a clear vision for the space...
In my experience "car first and mostly only choice people" are so selfish. The roads exist only for them and everything else on the road is an unnecessary impediment. They are always the most vocal opponents to spending any money on Public Transport infrastructure even though the evidence shows that the only way to reduce congestion is to remove cars from the network by giving people viable alternatives to driving every single time. They just cant see that it is they themselves in their single occupant cars that cause congestion, not bus and bike lanes. :wallbash: :wallbash:
Adelaide has the worst (most dominant) car culture in the nation as is demonstrated by our criminally low spending on PT/Active transport and thus usage of the PT/AT.
Big infrastructure investments are usually under-valued and & over-criticized while in the planning stage. It's much easier to envision the here and now costs and inconveniences, and far more difficult to imagine fully the eventual benefits.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3492 Post by Allkai » Tue May 22, 2018 2:53 pm

Wasn't sure where to post this, but installation of the 'Smart Parking" linemarking and sensors, is currently underway in Pulteney, Flinders and Pirie Streets.

https://www.cityofadelaide.com.au/city- ... rt-parking

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3493 Post by SRW » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:47 pm

Latest policy endeavour of the council for city developments is to require qualified architects to have prepared every proposal. Apparently Australia is unusual in not mandating architectural involvement, so Adelaide would be setting a standard nationally. some weird comments from stakeholders in the article though. See over here.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3494 Post by omada » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:36 pm

by SRW » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:17 pm

Latest policy endeavour of the council for city developments is to require qualified architects to have prepared every proposal. Apparently Australia is unusual in not mandating architectural involvement, so Adelaide would be setting a standard nationally. some weird comments from stakeholders in the article though. See over here.
Wow i'm impressed! That's actually pretty progressive policy. :applause:

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3495 Post by Llessur2002 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:14 am

Looks like Antic is trying his best to f*ck things up again. Hopefully this will go nowhere...
Proposal for Adelaide City Council to remove crossing east of Pirie and King William St intersection

AN opinion-dividing pedestrian crossing on a busy CBD street would be scrapped in an attempt to stop traffic bottlenecks, under a proposal to be put to the Adelaide City Council.

The zebra crossing at Pirie St, just east of the intersection with King William St, has split opinion ever since it was installed in 2013 — marking a return to pedestrian crossings in the CBD for the first time since the 1970s.

Its installation drew criticism from some for banking up traffic, while others said it provided a safe point for thousands of city workers and pedestrians. But the crossing could soon be no more if a proposal to be heard by the Adelaide City Council next week gets up.

Councillor Alex Antic has proposed that the zebra crossing be scrapped, saying it was creating a “Pirie St bottleneck”.

“This is essentially a relic of the 2012 Smart Move policy,” he said.

“When there is a very workable set of traffic lights just 10m away, I don’t think it is required.

“At peak times it is causing traffic to bank up back to Gawler Place, and anyone predicting the death of the motor vehicle is very wrong and whatever form they are in be they electric or hydrogen, they will still be an important part of our city.”

Cr Antic said he was not sure whether his fellow elected members would support his push, saying he predicted an interesting debate on the issue.

While zebra crossings are present at low speed areas such as carparks and Adelaide Airport, the Pirie St one has failed to encourage a raft of installations around the city.

Former Adelaide Lord Mayor Stephen Yarwood, who said it was his “pet project” having lobbied the State Government to get it, said removing the crossing made no sense.
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