[APP] 322 KWS - Echelon | 114m | 2 x 31 Lvls | Mixed Use

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[APP] Re: 322 KWS - Echelon | 114m | 2 x 31 Lvls | Mixed Use

#151 Post by Jaymz » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:18 pm

Norman wrote:Looks fantastic with the updated podium!

It looked fantastic before. And it looks fantastic now too. Adelaide should beg and plead that it gets built 8)

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#152 Post by YellowRoad » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:59 am

floplo wrote:According to the sales rep they plan on starting construction early next year with completion end of 2018
Would be great if that was the case, but being Adelaide ill only believe it when I see it completed :lol:

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#153 Post by Wayno » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:10 am

YellowRoad wrote:
floplo wrote:According to the sales rep they plan on starting construction early next year with completion end of 2018
Would be great if that was the case, but being Adelaide ill only believe it when I see it completed :lol:
Thanks for the post. Wasted 5 seconds of my life.

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#154 Post by floplo » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:43 am

YellowRoad wrote: Would be great if that was the case, but being Adelaide ill only believe it when I see it completed Image
He claimed it's credible as Karidis will move into the penthouse, therefore the developer has a personal incentive to get it done...

Also, they plan on using the podium (retail, car park) even before construction on the towers is done. Seemingly rear access makes it feasible

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#155 Post by slenderman » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:18 am

floplo wrote: He claimed it's credible as Karidis will move into the penthouse, therefore the developer has a personal incentive to get it done...

Also, they plan on using the podium (retail, car park) even before construction on the towers is done. Seemingly rear access makes it feasible
Possibly a silly question, but does this mean that they could potentially build one of the two towers (the one with Karidis's penthouse, presumably the north one) plus the podium and then build the second one at a later date when it's fully sold/the office component is tenanted, possibly leaving us with a half-complete building?

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#156 Post by Ben » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:23 am

slenderman wrote:
floplo wrote: He claimed it's credible as Karidis will move into the penthouse, therefore the developer has a personal incentive to get it done...

Also, they plan on using the podium (retail, car park) even before construction on the towers is done. Seemingly rear access makes it feasible
Possibly a silly question, but does this mean that they could potentially build one of the two towers (the one with Karidis's penthouse, presumably the north one) plus the podium and then build the second one at a later date when it's fully sold/the office component is tenanted, possibly leaving us with a half-complete building?
Yes this is the plan.

Stage 1 - Demolition
Stage 2 - Basement/Footings
Stage 3 - Podium/Carpark
Stage 4 - North Tower
Stage 5 - South Tower

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#157 Post by YellowRoad » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:57 am

Wayno wrote:
YellowRoad wrote:
floplo wrote:According to the sales rep they plan on starting construction early next year with completion end of 2018
Would be great if that was the case, but being Adelaide ill only believe it when I see it completed :lol:
Thanks for the post. Wasted 5 seconds of my life.

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Hardly bashing Adelaide, just remaining cautious seeing as its been almost 30 years since a 100m+ proposal has made it off the ground.

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#158 Post by Patrick_27 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:16 pm

YellowRoad wrote:Hardly bashing Adelaide, just remaining cautious seeing as its been almost 30 years since a 100m+ proposal has made it off the ground.
Who cares about the building's height? It's a matter of whether any development makes it off the ground in Adelaide; 40m, 60m, 90m or 100m+...

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#159 Post by crawf » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:17 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
YellowRoad wrote:Hardly bashing Adelaide, just remaining cautious seeing as its been almost 30 years since a 100m+ proposal has made it off the ground.
Who cares about the building's height? It's a matter of whether any development makes it off the ground in Adelaide; 40m, 60m, 90m or 100m+...
Hmm...

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#160 Post by timtam20292 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:43 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
YellowRoad wrote:Hardly bashing Adelaide, just remaining cautious seeing as its been almost 30 years since a 100m+ proposal has made it off the ground.
Who cares about the building's height? It's a matter of whether any development makes it off the ground in Adelaide; 40m, 60m, 90m or 100m+...
A lot of people here care, I thought you would've noticed by now?

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#161 Post by serca » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:53 pm

So there is a possibility that it could end up as only 1 tower ?

Or is that just the process to this build and the percentage of sales required applies to both towers as one project ?

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#162 Post by floplo » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:31 pm

serca wrote:So there is a possibility that it could end up as only 1 tower ?

Or is that just the process to this build and the percentage of sales required applies to both towers as one project ?
They only sell apartments in the North tower at the moment, so technically it could end up as 1 only I guess...

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#163 Post by SRW » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:17 pm

I hadn't realised this was a staged development?

I think that's something of a red flag to those who've followed developments here long enough. Perhaps not this particular developer, but we've elsewhere ended up with suboptimal buildings from projects that have either fallen over before all stages are fully realised (Aurora, Balfours) or been 'sneaked' through as something less than promised (car parks on Wakefield & Franklin).

This development becomes a markedly different proposition if it potentially ends up as another version of number 400 down the road. I'm not sure the south end would be all that pleasant if campus-style (long, wide floors) developments are allowed to predominate.

Not suggesting that's necessarily likely, of course; only that staged developments make me nervous.
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#164 Post by Splashmo » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:30 pm

Dumb question but is the idea that some apartments will face directly into those in the opposite building?

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#165 Post by SRW » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:35 pm

Practically too you'd have to imagine it'd be harder to sell apartments in one tower if the prospect of living in it means being subsequently adjacent to the construction of the other.
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