[APP] 74-79 King William Street | 132m | 39 Levels | Mixed

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#121 Post by Jaymz » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:04 am

metro wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:54 pm
Oh wow, something with a curve, even if it's just one corner it will be a welcome change to the boxy Adelaide skyline. Height is also decent, should block out Westpac a bit. :applause:

But.. this has me a little worried it may never get up.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-23/c ... 8/10024948
Being the economics nerd that I am, I have a fairly strong feeling that Adelaide and S.A may dodge that bullet in the above article. Firstly, although we've seen a large increase in apartment construction here, it's been nowhere near that of the eastern state where there's a huge apartment glut. If our population started to increase even slightly faster then there is plenty of room for more to be built here, which is on the cards as unemployment is falling rapidly here meaning more jobs are being created.

Secondly, the S.A economy and most importantly, confidence, seems to be on the up and up. The recent ship building announcements, mining investment, advanced manufacturing and the biomedical precinct are starting to get attention outside of the state. Add to that a new State Govt. that is reducing taxes on business and removing red tape. It should all add up to more demand for office space in our CBD and the need for some new towers.

Thirdly, our property prices are still relatively affordable, and haven't seen anywhere near the growth that's happened on the east coast. As those markets start to cool, like they are now, it's only a matter of time before investors start looking elsewhere for some bargains. It's called the ripple effect, and it's already happening in Tasmania, with Hobart the current property hotspot for growth (I think Hobarts median price is on par with Adelaide now). It makes sense that Adelaide should be next.

Anyways, I hope this tower gets built as the design is decent and the location is excellent for such a building.

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#122 Post by Patrick_27 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:07 pm

HiTouch wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:03 pm
Did Adelaidean and Realm, go into as much detail as this proposal?
Yes... Most proposals do. Realm had a 70-odd page proposal. It's not uncommon.

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#123 Post by row » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:44 pm

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Wow, that render looks much nicer than the previous one. And I'm digging that sky lobby. Someone should Photoshop the Sofitel Hotel building into the background of that scene. Currie St is going to look very different in a few years time!
These 2 new building will change the skyline forever.
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#124 Post by crawf » Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:08 pm

It just won't be on an angle ;). Nice work though.
row wrote:These 2 new building will change the skyline forever.
Don't forget 64 Currie Street, which is earmarked for a future multi-storey development < this actually might not be too far away with the current tenant having a closing down sale.

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#125 Post by Mpol03 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:55 pm

crawf wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:08 pm
It just won't be on an angle ;). Nice work though.
row wrote:These 2 new building will change the skyline forever.
Don't forget 64 Currie Street, which is earmarked for a future multi-storey development < this actually might not be too far away with the current tenant having a closing down sale.
Is that the tenant thats the furniture store? The Art Deco building? That proposal looked very average, I hope there’s a revised design.

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#126 Post by timtam20292 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:12 pm

This was approved today.

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#127 Post by Stryker » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:59 am

Some good points in this article. I'd certainly like to see some of these old buildings on North Terrace and around the city either rebuilt or repurposed.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-27/i ... e/10039102

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#128 Post by SBD » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:11 pm

Stryker wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:59 am
Some good points in this article. I'd certainly like to see some of these old buildings on North Terrace and around the city either rebuilt or repurposed.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-27/i ... e/10039102
At 132.4 metres, it will be 40 centimetres taller than Westpac House, giving it bragging rights over the city's relatively low skyline.
The ABC seems to have forgotten that it excitedly announced that Adelaidean would be 2 metres taller than Westpac House, and has already started construction. Even if this approval leads to immediate work on construction, it is unlikely to ever be more than third-highest.

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#129 Post by slenderman » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:14 pm

SBD wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:11 pm
Stryker wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:59 am
Some good points in this article. I'd certainly like to see some of these old buildings on North Terrace and around the city either rebuilt or repurposed.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-27/i ... e/10039102
At 132.4 metres, it will be 40 centimetres taller than Westpac House, giving it bragging rights over the city's relatively low skyline.
The ABC seems to have forgotten that it excitedly announced that Adelaidean would be 2 metres taller than Westpac House, and has already started construction. Even if this approval leads to immediate work on construction, it is unlikely to ever be more than third-highest.
Won't this be second tallest?

Adelaidean is 134 m (or 135 m, sources seem to conflict), this is 132.4, Realm is 131.7 and Westpac is 131.6. So unless good old DOMINATOR or another proposal comes up, I'm fairly sure this one will be the second tallest should it go ahead.

Anyway, I like this one overall, especially the curved south east corner. Not sure if it's intentional, but it kind of "harks back" to the curved south east corner of the Bank of Australiasia building that once existed on this site - a real head scratcher that they knocked that amazing building down for what's currently there.

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#130 Post by Goodsy » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:17 pm

slenderman wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:14 pm
SBD wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:11 pm
Stryker wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:59 am
Some good points in this article. I'd certainly like to see some of these old buildings on North Terrace and around the city either rebuilt or repurposed.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-27/i ... e/10039102
At 132.4 metres, it will be 40 centimetres taller than Westpac House, giving it bragging rights over the city's relatively low skyline.
The ABC seems to have forgotten that it excitedly announced that Adelaidean would be 2 metres taller than Westpac House, and has already started construction. Even if this approval leads to immediate work on construction, it is unlikely to ever be more than third-highest.
Won't this be second tallest?

Adelaidean is 134 m (or 135 m, sources seem to conflict), this is 132.4, Realm is 131.7 and Westpac is 131.6. So unless good old DOMINATOR or another proposal comes up, I'm fairly sure this one will be the second tallest should it go ahead.

Anyway, I like this one overall, especially the curved south east corner. Not sure if it's intentional, but it kind of "harks back" to the curved south east corner of the Bank of Australiasia building that once existed on this site - a real head scratcher that they knocked that amazing building down for what's currently there.
Adelaidean = 135m - 37 floors
Realm Adelaide = 132m - 40 floors
74-79 KWS = 132m - 39 floors
Westpac House = 132m - 31 floors

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#131 Post by Nathan » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:30 pm

It might be "taller" than Westpac, but it certainly won't have bragging rights over the skyline.
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#132 Post by slenderman » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:08 am

So this is 80 centimetres (or thereabouts) taller than Westpac House, yet the top of this building will be 3.4 metres lower? I'm assuming that Emporis for Westpac House and that elevation Nathan provided are accurate.

It seems odd that in the relatively flat Adelaide CBD, there's 4.2 metres of variation in the ground level at two sites just across the road from each other.

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#133 Post by Norman » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:01 pm

slenderman wrote:
Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:08 am
So this is 80 centimetres (or thereabouts) taller than Westpac House, yet the top of this building will be 3.4 metres lower? I'm assuming that Emporis for Westpac House and that elevation Nathan provided are accurate.

It seems odd that in the relatively flat Adelaide CBD, there's 4.2 metres of variation in the ground level at two sites just across the road from each other.
Could it be the basements on 74-79 King William Street count towards the total height? Or was Westpac House built on a mound?

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#134 Post by Waewick » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:22 pm

Norman wrote:
slenderman wrote:
Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:08 am
So this is 80 centimetres (or thereabouts) taller than Westpac House, yet the top of this building will be 3.4 metres lower? I'm assuming that Emporis for Westpac House and that elevation Nathan provided are accurate.

It seems odd that in the relatively flat Adelaide CBD, there's 4.2 metres of variation in the ground level at two sites just across the road from each other.
Could it be the basements on 74-79 King William Street count towards the total height? Or was Westpac House built on a mound?
You do have to walk up a slope from street level of Currie Street and there are steps from King William.




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#135 Post by rhino » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:29 pm

There is no way that there is 4m of height difference from one side of Currie St to the other. There is a mistake there somewhere.
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