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Re: Port Adelaide | Developments & News

#571 Post by Eurostar » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:57 pm

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New rail line
Trains back into the heart of the Port
Rolling by train to the heart of Port Adelaide on a new 1km rail spur line is one step closer with builders releasing the first animation of the experience. SEE HOW IT WILL LOOK

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 3f1b80e703
Would look cool if it was underground with a park at ground level

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#572 Post by Algernon » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:57 pm

So much money has been wasted at the Port due to a lack of clear strategic planning for the area. That new spur line will go to an area earmarked for residential development. Sounds good on paper. Except that it's the last area functioning as some sort of seaport that "justified" the hideous expense of an opening bridge to the port. $178 million dropped in to a howitzer right there.

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#573 Post by Kasey771 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:38 am

I still think there should have been a Station building. The Port is a Tourst area. They could have had a tourist 'office' at the station. Mr/Mrs Tourist gets off the train and thinks..what is there to do here?, goes to tourist office counter in the station picks up some brochures...starts a self guided walk etc. A wasted opportunity because they've gone for an el cheapo tram stop type train 'station' :cry: :cry:
Big infrastructure investments are usually under-valued and & over-criticized while in the planning stage. It's much easier to envision the here and now costs and inconveniences, and far more difficult to imagine fully the eventual benefits.

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#574 Post by Norman » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:05 am

Information offices don't have to be in buildings, they can set up trucks, stands and the rest of it. When I travel I have very rarely (if at all) gone to a tourist office when visiting another city. Most people find the information online or at the hotel these days.

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#575 Post by Kasey771 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:08 am

Norman wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:05 am
Information offices don't have to be in buildings, they can set up trucks, stands and the rest of it. When I travel I have very rarely (if at all) gone to a tourist office when visiting another city. Most people find the information online or at the hotel these days.
fair enough, but what cant be explained away is it looks to be just another, slightly fancier, newer, "second-hand bus shelter on an elevated platform" train 'station' which is not the type of infrastructure needed to attract users tothe network. I'm so sick of the road network getting gold-plated solutions and the PT network being fed scraps :(
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#576 Post by monotonehell » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:10 am

Eurostar wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:57 pm
I Follow PAFC wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:00 pm
New rail line
Trains back into the heart of the Port
Rolling by train to the heart of Port Adelaide on a new 1km rail spur line is one step closer with builders releasing the first animation of the experience. SEE HOW IT WILL LOOK

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 3f1b80e703
Would look cool if it was underground with a park at ground level
That seems like a counter intuitive idea? If you mean for commuters to drive into the Port, park and ride - wouldn't that cause congestion without any benefit?

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#577 Post by Eurostar » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:57 pm

monotonehell wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:10 am
Eurostar wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:57 pm
I Follow PAFC wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:00 pm
New rail line
Trains back into the heart of the Port
Rolling by train to the heart of Port Adelaide on a new 1km rail spur line is one step closer with builders releasing the first animation of the experience. SEE HOW IT WILL LOOK

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 3f1b80e703
Would look cool if it was underground with a park at ground level
That seems like a counter intuitive idea? If you mean for commuters to drive into the Port, park and ride - wouldn't that cause congestion without any benefit?
I dont mean carpark I mean a park for families to enjoy with benches, playground, let food trucks set up nearby or just a square to create an interesting entry point and meeting place.

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#578 Post by monotonehell » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:13 pm

Eurostar wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:57 pm
I dont mean carpark I mean a park for families to enjoy with benches, playground, let food trucks set up nearby or just a square to create an interesting entry point and meeting place.
OH! Haha cool. :D

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#579 Post by Llessur2002 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:36 pm

monotonehell wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:13 pm
Eurostar wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:57 pm
I dont mean carpark I mean a park for families to enjoy with benches, playground, let food trucks set up nearby or just a square to create an interesting entry point and meeting place.
OH! Haha cool. :D
Weird - I read it as car park too. A park is a much better idea...

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#580 Post by I Follow PAFC » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:14 pm

Shape up or ship out.
Mayor’s blunt ultimatum over derelict buildings.

CLEAN up your derelict buildings or sell up and get out of the Port – that’s the brutal ultimatum being handed to local landlords in the lead-up to next year’s Tour Down Under.

Mayor Gary Johanson has delivered his edict to owners of rundown buildings in the Port, telling them to renovate or put their properties on the market.

He said they had “no excuse” not to renovate, with Port Adelaide Enfield Council offering to chip in up to $4000 for improvements.

Next January’s Tour Down Under breakfast – which will herald the return of the famous cycling event to the Port for the first time in 18 years would bring huge potential to the area, he said.

“This is our opportunity to showcase the Port to the world and prove it has a strong future,” said Mr Johanson, who described many of the district’s rundown buildings as nothing more than “pigeon lofts”.

“There are burnt-out buildings on Commercial Rd that have been like that since before I became mayor (in 2006),” he said. “Surely they can board them up and put a coat of paint on them so they look presentable.”

“The demand for properties in the Port is so great now that there is no excuse for any property owner in Port Adelaide not to do something – if they say they can’t afford it then the best thing they can do is put it on the market,” the Mayor said.

“It’d be a quick sale and they’d get a fair and reasonable price.”

Port Adelaide has attracted significant investment in the past couple of years from the State Government and private developers.

Last year, the State Government unveiled a $2 billion masterplan for 1300 homes on the waterfront to be carried out by Starfish Developments and Cedar Woods.

And several heritage buildings – including the soon to reopen 1849 Port Admiral Hotel – have been restored by local owners.

Despite this, there are still large sections of the main thoroughfare on St Vincent St and Commercial Rd that remain derelict.

At its meeting last week, the council voted to spend another $50,000 to prepare for the Tour Down Under – taking its total spend for hosting the event to $165,000.

This money will be used for creating a “pre-race experience”, called Pelaton at the Port, which will feature a breakfast in the lanes of the heritage precinct.

Local sporting clubs and museums will also be asked to spruik their offerings and street performers will bring a “party feel”.

Mr Johanson said the council was doing all it could – even offering grants of up to $4000 to owners of heritage buildings to make improvements.

The onus, he said, was now on landlords to make the repairs or sell to someone who would.

North West Business Alliance president Ray Hampson backed Mr Johanson’s call and said at the very least landlords should cover their properties with banners for the Tour Down Under if they won’t paint them.

“Port Adelaide is going to be on the world stage and it is a real sore point,” Mr Hampson said.

“It is a waste with what’s happening in the Port – people should start thinking and planning ahead or they are going to miss out.”

It was announced in July that Port Adelaide would host stage one of the race on January 16, when cyclists will leave the Port and ride to Lyndoch in the Barossa Valley.

The State Government is hoping the Tour Down Under will attract one million people statewide.

It’d be a quick sale and they’d get a fair and reasonable price.
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#581 Post by Vee » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:10 pm

Thx for the article.
Looking forward to this stage of the TDU. I hope the local landlords, businesses do their best to showcase the Port to locals, Aussies and the world.
It's in my calendar, along with the Norwood stage on Fri 19.

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#582 Post by Mpol03 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:55 pm

My family own a lot of property in Port Adelaide and are working both with the council and business owners occupying our buildings, to restore the heritage feel and bring the buildings back to their former glory. I only hope others follow suit.
When I visited the Port in August, I was so surprised to see just how much it had been cleaned up.

Onwards and up!

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#583 Post by claybro » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:59 pm

Local councils really should have more powers to force buildings to be kept in a reasonable state. Having said that, the heritage "upgrade" on the Central Building on Black diamond Corner carried out a few years back really had mixed results. sure, it secured the building and made it fit for purpose, but a lot of the heritage features such as original leadlites on the shopfronts are missing. Well done to those that are really making an effort though, and doing it with sympathy to heritage features.

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#584 Post by Eurostar » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:19 am

Keep a handful of historic buildings then demolish the rest and build modern buildings. Many people want to see nice well kept historic buildings and modern buildings not boarded up shop fronts or buildings that are falling apart.

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#585 Post by Norman » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:24 am

Eurostar wrote:Keep a handful of historic buildings then demolish the rest and build modern buildings. Many people want to see nice well kept historic buildings and modern buildings not boarded up shop fronts or buildings that are falling apart.
Which buildings do you suggest we keep and which ones should be demolished?

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