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#646 Post by Nathan » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:37 pm

A return of the mountain?

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#647 Post by JAKJ » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:19 pm

Where is that render from?

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#648 Post by Nathan » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:20 pm

JAKJ wrote:
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Where is that render from?
That was one of the finalists from the architectural ideas competition run back in 2013.

https://architectureau.com/articles/roy ... ist/#img=0

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#649 Post by PeFe » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:02 pm

Latest proposal for the Aboriginal Museum.
From In Daily
Holograms, VR bid for Aboriginal Cultural Centre to "bring Country to life"

Holograms and virtual reality should be used to bring the SA Museum’s world-renowned Aboriginal artefacts collection to life at Lot Fourteen, a State Government report has recommended.

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A render of the Marshall Government's proposed "National Aboriginal Art and Culture Gallery" at Lot Fourteen.
The proposal follows a drawn-out feasibility study involving the state’s major cultural institutions and Aboriginal communities into Premier Steven Marshall’s vision for an Aboriginal Art and Cultures Centre at the old Royal Adelaide Hospital site.

Marshall spruiked the idea ahead of last year’s state election, at the time saying the absence of a national Indigenous gallery was a “significant omission by Australian governments and a fantastic opportunity for South Australia”.

A report compiled by consultancy firm PWC summarising the consultation’s findings – released this week on the Department for Premier and Cabinet website, four months overdue – states the centre should be housed in an “instantly recognisable” multi-level building featuring a theatre, events and function rooms, and outdoor exhibition spaces.

According to the report, the gallery should “bring Country to life”, with exhibitions that are “constantly changing and evolving” using modern technology such as virtual reality, 3D, moving pictures and holographic images.

“Using traditional storytelling techniques along with unique physical collections and modern technology, the ACCC (Aboriginal Art and Cultures Centre) can tell the story of Aboriginal culture and history in a way that has never been done before,” the report states.

“It should be a space that allows a sensory immersion experience for the visitor.

“When you enter the AACC you are immediately taken into Aboriginal Australia through the use of cutting-edge technology. People forget where they are and completely absorbed into the story that is being told around them.”

The report suggests the SA Museum relinquish custodianship of its 30,000-piece Aboriginal artefacts collection to the Lot Fourteen centre “to preserve these collections for future generations and to ensure appropriate access by Aboriginal peoples”.

InDaily reported in August that the bulk of museum’s collection is at risk of water damage, as it is stored in a leaking shed that does not house appropriate storage units.

The museum had, over several years, called on successive State Governments to provide funding to fix the facility, or find an alternative location to store the collection.

In a media release sent this morning, SA Museum director Brian Oldman said he looked forward to offering the museum’s collection to the Aboriginal Art and Cultures Centre at Lot Fourteen.

“Based on the Museum’s collection, South Australia has the unique opportunity to work with Aboriginal leaders to develop an iconic, nation-leading centre that will provide a gateway to Aboriginal Australia,” he said.

“The Australian Aboriginal community are at the core of visioning, governance and operation of the new cultural centre.”

The PWC report made no mention of the Art Gallery of South Australia offering part of its Indigenous art collection to the AACC, despite the gallery being one of the key cultural institutions consulted as part of the project.

The PWC report stressed that the AACC “should ensure it is complementing… not competing” with other cultural institutions in Adelaide, including Tandanya, which already brands itself as Australia’s “National Aboriginal Cultural Institute”.

“When visitors come to the AACC, there is the opportunity to showcase these organisations and make it easy for visitors to find them and connect with them (and to understand how they will extend their experience of Aboriginal culture),” it states.

The PWC report suggests a standalone governing body be responsible for the direction and management of the Aboriginal Art and Cultures Centre.

It suggested the governance team have two co-chairs – one Aboriginal and one non-Aboriginal – who would oversee a team of predominately Aboriginal board members.

The gallery should also, according to the report, have an Aboriginal employment and procurement strategy, as well as offer traineeships for Aboriginal workers.

“The AACC should instil pride in all Aboriginal Australians through the stories that are told and the celebration of Aboriginal culture over the past 65,000+ years and into the future,” the report states.

It should be a celebration and recognition of the immense achievements, ingenuity and contribution of Aboriginal peoples and culture.”

Premier Steven Marshall told InDaily in a statement that the report had identified four stages of the project, which would be undertaken over the next 12 months.

“These include establishing project governance, an operating model and design of the Centre,” he said.

An operating model, flagged by the State Government in this year’s Budget, is expected to outline operating costs.

The report said the State Government would be required to provide a “significant portion” of funding to operate the AACC, with the rest of the costs to ideally come from the Federal Government, on-site revenue-generating schemes and philanthropic donations.

In August, InDaily reported the State Government had dropped the word “national” from the title of the gallery amid competition with the Northern Territory over plans to build what both governments claim will be Australia-first institutions.

The PWC report recommends calling the gallery a “centre”, stating that “for many people, the word ‘museum’ or ‘gallery’ mean different things”.

https://indaily.com.au/news/2019/11/28/ ... y-to-life/

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#650 Post by Stryker » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:05 pm

Geeze I hope it looks better than that boring looking render...

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#651 Post by ginzahikari » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:00 pm

PeFe wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:02 pm
Latest proposal for the Aboriginal Museum.
From In Daily
Holograms, VR bid for Aboriginal Cultural Centre to "bring Country to life"

Holograms and virtual reality should be used to bring the SA Museum’s world-renowned Aboriginal artefacts collection to life at Lot Fourteen, a State Government report has recommended.

Image

A render of the Marshall Government's proposed "National Aboriginal Art and Culture Gallery" at Lot Fourteen.
The proposal follows a drawn-out feasibility study involving the state’s major cultural institutions and Aboriginal communities into Premier Steven Marshall’s vision for an Aboriginal Art and Cultures Centre at the old Royal Adelaide Hospital site.

Marshall spruiked the idea ahead of last year’s state election, at the time saying the absence of a national Indigenous gallery was a “significant omission by Australian governments and a fantastic opportunity for South Australia”.

A report compiled by consultancy firm PWC summarising the consultation’s findings – released this week on the Department for Premier and Cabinet website, four months overdue – states the centre should be housed in an “instantly recognisable” multi-level building featuring a theatre, events and function rooms, and outdoor exhibition spaces.

According to the report, the gallery should “bring Country to life”, with exhibitions that are “constantly changing and evolving” using modern technology such as virtual reality, 3D, moving pictures and holographic images.

“Using traditional storytelling techniques along with unique physical collections and modern technology, the ACCC (Aboriginal Art and Cultures Centre) can tell the story of Aboriginal culture and history in a way that has never been done before,” the report states.

“It should be a space that allows a sensory immersion experience for the visitor.

“When you enter the AACC you are immediately taken into Aboriginal Australia through the use of cutting-edge technology. People forget where they are and completely absorbed into the story that is being told around them.”

The report suggests the SA Museum relinquish custodianship of its 30,000-piece Aboriginal artefacts collection to the Lot Fourteen centre “to preserve these collections for future generations and to ensure appropriate access by Aboriginal peoples”.

InDaily reported in August that the bulk of museum’s collection is at risk of water damage, as it is stored in a leaking shed that does not house appropriate storage units.

The museum had, over several years, called on successive State Governments to provide funding to fix the facility, or find an alternative location to store the collection.

In a media release sent this morning, SA Museum director Brian Oldman said he looked forward to offering the museum’s collection to the Aboriginal Art and Cultures Centre at Lot Fourteen.

“Based on the Museum’s collection, South Australia has the unique opportunity to work with Aboriginal leaders to develop an iconic, nation-leading centre that will provide a gateway to Aboriginal Australia,” he said.

“The Australian Aboriginal community are at the core of visioning, governance and operation of the new cultural centre.”

The PWC report made no mention of the Art Gallery of South Australia offering part of its Indigenous art collection to the AACC, despite the gallery being one of the key cultural institutions consulted as part of the project.

The PWC report stressed that the AACC “should ensure it is complementing… not competing” with other cultural institutions in Adelaide, including Tandanya, which already brands itself as Australia’s “National Aboriginal Cultural Institute”.

“When visitors come to the AACC, there is the opportunity to showcase these organisations and make it easy for visitors to find them and connect with them (and to understand how they will extend their experience of Aboriginal culture),” it states.

The PWC report suggests a standalone governing body be responsible for the direction and management of the Aboriginal Art and Cultures Centre.

It suggested the governance team have two co-chairs – one Aboriginal and one non-Aboriginal – who would oversee a team of predominately Aboriginal board members.

The gallery should also, according to the report, have an Aboriginal employment and procurement strategy, as well as offer traineeships for Aboriginal workers.

“The AACC should instil pride in all Aboriginal Australians through the stories that are told and the celebration of Aboriginal culture over the past 65,000+ years and into the future,” the report states.

It should be a celebration and recognition of the immense achievements, ingenuity and contribution of Aboriginal peoples and culture.”

Premier Steven Marshall told InDaily in a statement that the report had identified four stages of the project, which would be undertaken over the next 12 months.

“These include establishing project governance, an operating model and design of the Centre,” he said.

An operating model, flagged by the State Government in this year’s Budget, is expected to outline operating costs.

The report said the State Government would be required to provide a “significant portion” of funding to operate the AACC, with the rest of the costs to ideally come from the Federal Government, on-site revenue-generating schemes and philanthropic donations.

In August, InDaily reported the State Government had dropped the word “national” from the title of the gallery amid competition with the Northern Territory over plans to build what both governments claim will be Australia-first institutions.

The PWC report recommends calling the gallery a “centre”, stating that “for many people, the word ‘museum’ or ‘gallery’ mean different things”.

https://indaily.com.au/news/2019/11/28/ ... y-to-life/
If they do it properly like the MONA in Hobart, it would surely attract visitors and be a great addition to our city.

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#652 Post by Neko Neko Peko Peko » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:30 pm

I don't understand why we aren't building the Contemporary Art Gallery that won the competition last year? That had sensitivity to the Indigenous and would be such an architectural highlight in comparison to whatever this upsidedown triangle is!

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#653 Post by Patrick_27 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:49 pm

I've rather warmed to the idea of an Australian Aboriginal gallery. A contemporary gallery looks great on paper, but how many like it already exist in Australia and the world? At least with this gallery it achieves two things: 1. it's a national/international first in terms of how it will represent Australian aboriginal art, history and culture, and even if another like it is to come along, ours will forever be the first. Just like MONA will always be the first of it's kind in Australia. 2. It frees up space in both the SA Museum and Art Gallery SA's collections, allowing more space for both centre to expand their exhibition space, let's not forget how much both centres have stored away from public viewing due to lack of space. I just hope the design of this centre is completely different to what the prelim design has been.

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#654 Post by how good is he » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:42 pm

I hope it works and becomes a National and International draw card & success. However my concern (and maybe it’s not a fair comparison) is comparing it with something we already have, Tandanya. I am not knowledgeable enough to comment on it but does anyone know how successful that is and how many visitors (National/International) it attracts? I know the new gallery will be far superior, bigger and on North Tce which will all definitely help.

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#655 Post by Patrick_27 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:57 pm

how good is he wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:42 pm
I hope it works and becomes a National and International draw card & success. However my concern (and maybe it’s not a fair comparison) is comparing it with something we already have, Tandanya. I am not knowledgeable enough to comment on it but does anyone know how successful that is and how many visitors (National/International) it attracts? I know the new gallery will be far superior, bigger and on North Tce which will all definitely help.
I think in terms of the 'draw-card' nature of Tandanya, it does well enough because at the bare minimum the schools that go through there would keep it afloat, but like you said the scales are different. This would be huge because big money from the government would ensure that it was huge (both in terms of the facilities and its offering plus how it's marketed). I struggled to see a future for Tandanya once this is open because whilst they won't be exactly the same, Tandanya will still become somewhat redundant, but I think its operators would already know that. There's no reason though that Tandanya couldn't be repurposed as an external component of the centre, like how the Moving Image Gallery at Fed Square in Melbourne is an external gallery of the National Gallery of Victoria.

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#656 Post by PeFe » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:45 am

Patrick_27 wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:57 pm
There's no reason though that Tandanya couldn't be repurposed as an external component of the centre, like how the Moving Image Gallery at Fed Square in Melbourne is an external gallery of the National Gallery of Victoria.
That is actually a really good idea......hope the powers that be read this forum!

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#657 Post by Neko Neko Peko Peko » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:28 am

Patrick_27 wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:49 pm
I've rather warmed to the idea of an Australian Aboriginal gallery. A contemporary gallery looks great on paper, but how many like it already exist in Australia and the world? At least with this gallery it achieves two things: 1. it's a national/international first in terms of how it will represent Australian aboriginal art, history and culture, and even if another like it is to come along, ours will forever be the first. Just like MONA will always be the first of it's kind in Australia. 2. It frees up space in both the SA Museum and Art Gallery SA's collections, allowing more space for both centre to expand their exhibition space, let's not forget how much both centres have stored away from public viewing due to lack of space. I just hope the design of this centre is completely different to what the prelim design has been.
I suppose my point was more towards the design of the building its self. I am not against the idea of an Aboriginal Gallery at all, but as most of the Contemporary Art gallery proposals last year used a lot of Indigenous Culture to drive their designs, why not use one of those proposals as the Indigenous Gallery? (and not call it a contemporary gallery).

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#658 Post by SBD » Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:39 pm

People commenting on te appearance of the building in the picture need to remember that it comes from a PWC Consultant report, not from an architect or designer. That picture presumably is the work experience kid's interpretation of
an “instantly recognisable” multi-level building featuring a theatre, events and function rooms, and outdoor exhibition spaces.
Several of the former design competition entries would also fit that brief.

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#659 Post by NTRabbit » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:49 pm

Neko Neko Peko Peko wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:30 pm
I don't understand why we aren't building the Contemporary Art Gallery that won the competition last year? That had sensitivity to the Indigenous and would be such an architectural highlight in comparison to whatever this upsidedown triangle is!
Because it was a Labor plan, and this one isn't. Only reason.

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